Fr Paul Kramer And His Demons: The Failed World War III Prophecy Of The German Priest/Mystic Updated

Father Kramer: 'Well, here we go beyond the firm evidence of approved apparitions and into the realm of speculation. Based on the reported prophecies of a German priest, a mystic, whose veracity is attested to by another German priest I regard as utterly trustworthy, we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war and 2011 the Consecration of Russia and the beginning of the period of peace spoken of by Our Lady of Fatima. The period of chastisement may continue past 2011, but by 2013 the chastisement will have ended and this may be the actual year of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart'

The Crusader Issue 92 dated May 2009 tells us that:
“The Secret Warned Against Vatican Council II and the New Mass: An Exclusive Fatima Crusader Interview with Father Paul Kramer”
In this interview Fr Paul Kramer gives his reasons why he believes that the Secret of Fatima contains a warning not to change the liturgy and warning of an evil Council that would cause great scandal in the Church. Fr Paul Kramer claims that he has knowledge of this because a long-time personal friend of Cardinal Ratzinger told him so:
"I know this to be a fact because I have personally spoken with a German theologian and a seminary Rector who is a longtime close friend of Pope Benedict."
Fr Paul Kramer goes on to state that:
"I can say this much: We’re talking about an elderly priest, a long-time personal friend of Pope Benedict, a man who was a long-time personal acquaintance of St. Pio of Piertrelcina [Padre Pio]. In fact, he told me he had gone to confession to Padre Pio 58 times. This is a man who for many years was the Rector of a seminary in South America; a man who is highly esteemed, who is of great reputation in the Church. I would also point out that in the diocese where he worked what I have said about the Third Secret, what Cardinal Ratzinger revealed to him, was common knowledge among the young priests who were seminarians and deacons at the time this man was Rector. They all know the story that Cardinal Ratzinger had told him."
From bits and pieces of the interview, I gather that this German priest is Father Dollinger who is described as an elderly German priest & theologian who was a Rector of a South American seminary. Looks like the Fatima Crusader relies heavily on Fr Paul Kramer’s German Priest friend as a source of information on the words of Our Lady.

So fair game, here goes: Father Paul Kramer, is this Father Dollinger, who is described as an elderly German Priest & theologian, and who was a Rector of a South American seminary, the same German Priest that you ‘regard as utterly trustworthy’ who is mentioned in the article on World War III and worse?

You tell us that this elderly German Priest (Fr. Dollinger?) attests to the veracity of the German Priest/Mystic who falsely prophesied the start of World War III in the spring of 2008, you said that:
we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war
This prophecy failed. These reported prophecies of a German Priest/Mystic are false and lying prophecies. Are they not? What happen? Who was wrong here? Was the prophet wrong or was the German Priest (Fr. Dollinger?) who attested to the veracity of the false prophet wrong? Looks like the gift of discernment failed on all fronts. So if Father Dollinger is the same Priest as the one who attested to the veracity of the false prophet, why would anyone believe Father Dollinger now? What will become of the Fatima Crusader and those who support the Fatima Crusader?
When prophecy shall fail, the people shall be scattered abroad Proverbs 29:18

Comments

  1. You quote Fr. kramer as stating "here we go beyond the firm evidence of approved apparitions and into the realm of speculation". Then he states "we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war".

    That does not sound like prophecy but surmisal based on speculation, as Fr. Kramer clearly stated. Your quote of proverbs is therefore off-point if not inappropriate.

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  2. Here is the full quote from Fr. Kramer:'Well, here we go beyond the firm evidence of approved apparitions and into the realm of speculation. Based on the reported prophecies of a German priest, a mystic, whose veracity is attested to by another German priest I regard as utterly trustworthy, we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war and 2011 the Consecration of Russia and the beginning of the period of peace spoken of by Our Lady of Fatima. The period of chastisement may continue past 2011, but by 2013 the chastisement will have ended and this may be the actual year of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart'

    Here is the part you left out:'Based on the reported prophecies of a German priest, a mystic, whose veracity is attested to by another German priest I regard as utterly trustworthy' Fr Kramer uses the words 'reported prophecies' This WWWIII prophecy is a prophecy that Fr Paul Kramer attested to and believed in and this prophecy failed. Again from Lady Wisdom: 'When prophecy shall fail, the people shall be scattered abroad' Therefore the use of proverbs is approiate.

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  3. It seems that even a prophecy of WWIII is not true because Our Lady said at Garabandal that there will be no WWIII.

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  4. When the local Ordinary declares that an apparition of sorts is or is not of supernatural origin - that is final. Garabandal has been declared of no supernatural influence.
    On Fr. Kramer - he specifically declares that not only is he going beyond firm evidence and into the realm of speculation - he further states that the idea of the date of WWIII is of a "surmise"; meaning that the priest has related that WWIII is coming but did not give a date. It is Fr. Kramer that "surmise's" or guesses at the date. Furthermore Blessed Sister Alena Aiello,whose revelations have full Church approval, also declares that between 1959-1961, Our Lady, among other revelations, showed her a great revolution in Rome, and and told her that "Russia will march upon all the nations of Europe", will raise her flag over St. Peter's and will attack the USA with her "secret armies". So we see that Fr. Kramer is right in what he says and also careful to explain that we are close but that he "surmises" or has given an educated guess as to the time. Even Marie-Julie Jahenny, the Breton Stigmatist, Mystic, and Victim Soul, in 1880's gives a description of WWIII and Russia, in detail, attacking the Western Nations; also approved by Holy Mother Church.
    What we have here is that the "IMPERIALIST" happens to be an very poorly read, uninformed, and dangerous skeptic, who is both unread in authentic and approved Catholic Prophecy, and not very well adept and understanding English grammer.

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  5. Fr Paul Kramer said: "we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war" Fr Paul Kramer uses the word "we".

    You on the other hand Mr. Anonymous wrote: "he "surmises" or has given an educated guess as to the time."

    Fr. Paul Kramer did not say that "I surmise" but "we can surmise" who is included in this "we"? More than one person? I'm thinking that Fr Paul Kramer is including his false prophet in his "we".

    As for Blessed Sister Alena Aiello & Marie-Julie Jahenny and their reported wwiii prophecies, they are not the issue here. Fr Paul was using his germen priest/mystic to surmise wwwiii in 2008, not Blessed Sister Alena Aiello & Marie-Julie Jahenny.

    Question still needs to be answered who is the german priest/mystic & who is the german priest that attested to the veracity of the false prophet? simple question that demands an answer. take your nose out of your grammer books and own up to all the lies you have been telling the trad world about wwiii over these last 5 years or so!

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  6. Anyone paying attention to the current geopolitical tensions and global economic collapse should realize that World War III is coming. Read the writing on the wall.

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  7. ha ha..how long have you been waiting for economic collapse & wwIII? 10 years? 15 years? etc.. timing is a little off. so much so that it is proof enough that fr kramer is a false and lying prophet.

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  8. Imperialist

    Take a gander at catholicplanet.com. Talk about false prophets.

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  9. Fr. Kramer may be false but a "lying" prophet?? So you know what's in his heart? Good one dxv515. You're a piece of work.

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  10. "You're a piece of work." Thanks I do try. Do I know what is in Fr Kramer's heart? I know what Fr. Kramer wrote, don't I? I comment on what he wrote & what he wrote was a lie and is false. WWIII did not start in the spring of 2008 did it? In sinning and lying against the Lord: and we have turned away so that we went not after our God, but spoke calumny and transgression: we have conceived, and uttered from the heart, words of falsehood... yeah...

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  11. What Fr. Kramer said and did was not a lie, it was based on speculation and only speculation. No, WW3 did not start, that does not equal lying. But you are the one who is guilty of calumny, spreading the idea that Kramer is lying. You are the despicable one for uttering this falsehood.

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  12. So what Fr. Kramer has been uttering about wwiii these last 5yrs or so is not uttering a falsehood? Nice!

    So Fr Kramer can wrongly speculate all he wants about the coming wwiii til the day he dies & it is O.K. with you?

    According to you Fr Kramer can continue to spread these false wwiii prophecies in the trad world without consequences.

    Is no one allowed to question Fr. Kramer?

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  13. WWIII has broken out, if you haven't noticed. The wars in the mideast will only escalate. The war was announce when the four angels of the Apocalypse, from the mideast, struck at the exact hour, into the USA. We have been at war ever since. This is WWIII. However, I disagree that the Pope will consecrate Russia in 2011.

    Also, suppose Fr. Dollinger did vouch for this mystic, and it is found he is wrong (I don't believe he is). Does this mean he lied about what Card. Ratz. said?

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